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What about the voters (2)

posted: 21-10-2009 by: Martine van Bijlert

What do people think? Now that a million votes have been disqualified and the second round has been announced. Another collection of conversation fragments.

“I am worried that something will go wrong with the elections. Many people are worried. So Karzai’s acceptance of the results is good. He has decided to avoid confrontation. It is a wise decision. It eases the tension in the country.” – manager in a large company in Balkh

“Let me tell you, I am afraid. I lived through all the wars, but I was young then. Now I am old and I don’t have the patience or the tolerance anymore… We had a lot of fraud in our election. Everywhere in the world there is fraud in elections, but other countries are more developed so their fraud is more developed. Here we somehow didn’t know how things work… I used to work in the IEC for many years, but in this election when I saw how dirty the process had become and how the voter cards were being distributed everywhere, I quit. I didn’t want to lose my good name for a salary… Karzai announced today that there will be a second round. He was in a bad situation and his speech was all over the place. What he said? Whatever he said, he was forced to say it. He had no choice… We’re going to have another election but we still have no candidate we would want to vote for.” – woman at a Kabul wedding

“The Karzai supporters in the south are very stressed because of the second round. They say that the foreigners are not giving Karzai his victory. But the maleks (village leaders) are very happy, because they will be making a lot of money again in the campaign. The common people, they will not vote. They did not vote before – and the boxes were still full – and they will not go now… We had hoped the election would bring change. That would have been good, but it didn’t happen. So for that reason maybe we should have a second round. Even though there are problems, you should give us a second round. So they will understand that the nation has a right and that you cannot just rule over it as you wish.” – southern tribal elder

“I am calling from Daikondi. Our request is that the IEC staff in our province is changed. If not, the people will not be the owner of their vote and the second round will be the same as the first. The groups who are here will make sure that the candidate of their choice gets the vote. A coalition government would have been better. But whoever wins and becomes the new President, you should make sure he gives power to good and appropriate people, there should be criteria for that. Please pay attention to this and pass on our requests. We want the corrupt IEC people to be replaced or a coalition government.” – community leader from Daikondi

“There should be no coalition government. In that case it would have been better to ignore the fraud and give Karzai his victory. There is no coalition government in the law, it has no legitimacy. If we allow that now, then we can ignore the outcome of the vote every time. Now that the ECC has followed the law and forced the second round, we should follow the law until the end. It is the only criteria we have.” – young civil society activist in Kabul (just before the ECC announcement)

“So what is happening now with this second round, are they are really getting ready for it? That’s impossible. That’s really impossible. Things will never be ready in time. We won’t even be able to gather our observers in time.” – member of a provincial campaign team

AAN members share their experiences as they try to make sense of Afghan society and politics.


Other blogs by Martine van Bijlert

London Conference (2): Peace, Reconciliation and Reintegration

London Conference (1): Calling for Afghan ownership and Afghan leadership

The Cabinet vote: Fourteen in, eleven to go

So where are we with the 2010 elections?

Hope has returned to Afghanistan, or so they say.

Parliament votes off most of Karzai's Cabinet

Rearranging election outcomes while the IEC archive burns

The Cabinet list

Thoughts and worries

The confused fight against corruption

Parliament getting ready for the new Cabinet

Finishing the unfinished election (2): Panjshir and Kapisa

Finishing the unfinished election (1): Helmand, Khost and Farah

Small stories from the province (1): A very high-ranking dog

MEI paper repost: How to respond to a flawed election

NDS detention - not just a Canadian problem

Corruption, corruption, corruption

Waiting and watching

AAN Election Blog No. 40: The President has been elected

AAN Election Blog No. 38: I think we should be worried now

What about the voters (2)

AAN Election Blog 37: The next chapter of the conclusion (2)

AAN Election Blog 36: The next chapter of the conclusion

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AAN Election Blog 35: The fog of an election result

What the preliminary results tell us (3): Logar, Baghlan and Uruzgan

AAN Election Blog 34: Rumours of a Run-off

AAN Election Blog 33: So what do we do with the audit?

What the preliminary results tell us (2): Nimruz provincial council

What the preliminary results tell us (1): Kabul provincial council

AAN Election Blog No. 32: We have a new universe - and an old problem

AAN Election Blog No. 31: We have a result – sort of – and some very frayed relations.

AAN Election Blog No. 30: Which votes are to be counted - a crucial battle

AAN Election Blog No. 27: A mysterious election and a fluid count

AAN Election Blog No. 26: If no one saw it, did it happen? - AAN recommended election reading (UPDATED)

A response to AAN Election Blog No. 23

AAN Election Blog No. 23: How much are we expected to believe?

AAN Election Blog 21: Observing the Vote - An Election with Many Faces

AAN Electoral Blog No. 18: Some last minute figures

AAN Electoral Blog No. 17: Voter Turnout - stating the obvious

AAN Electoral Blog No. 19: The day before the 2009 elections

AAN Election Blog No. 13: The Debate

AAN Election Blog No. 11: The Return of the General (to be continued)

AAN Election Blog No. 10: Elections in far-away places

AAN Election Blog No. 9: On the Campaign Trail III

AAN Election Blog No. 7: Parliament's closed doors and wedding discussions

AAN Election Blog No. 3: On the Campaign Trail II

AAN Election Blog No. 2: On the Campaign Trail

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